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- IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
-
- REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE
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- November 2nd, 1992
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- Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
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- This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
- For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
-
- ATTENDEES
- ---------
-
- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Borman, David / Cray Research
- Crocker, Dave / TBO
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / SUN
- Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
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- Regrets
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
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- AGENDA
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- 1) Administivia
- o Role Call
- o Bash the Agenda
- o Approval of the Minutes
- o Next Meeting
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- 2) Protocol Actions
- o IP over FDDI to Standard
- o Network Time Protocol V3 to Draft Standard
- o Telnet Environment Option
- o Telnet Authentication
- o Token Ring MIB
- o RIP Version 2
- o RIP Version 2 MIB
- o RIP Protocol Analysis
- o Ident MIB
- o Ident
- o String Representation of Distinguished Name
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- 3) Technical Management Issues
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- o Expired Protocols
- o ROAD Decision Process
- o Partridge and Kastenholz Criteria
- o Poised Working Group
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-
- MINUTES
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- 1) Administrivia
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- o Approval of the Minutes
-
- The minutes of the October 19th Teleconference were approved.
-
- o Next Meeting
-
- The IESG plans to meet by teleconference Monday November 9th at
- Eta. The agenda will be focused on the process by which the IESG
- will evaluate the IP V7 proposals.
-
- 2) Protocol Actions
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- o IP and ARP over FDDI
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- The IP and ARP over FDDI protocol was approved by the IESG for
- recommendation to the IAB as a full Standard. This protocol is
- widely implemented by most router vendors and is widely deployed in
- commercial and university backbone networks.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the
- Internet Draft <draft-ietf-fddi-ipoverfddi-00.txt> as a full Standard.
-
- o Network Time Protocol
-
- The IESG discussed the two known NTP implementations and concluded
- that they were sufficiently independent for Draft Standard. The IESG
- continues to have concerns that this complex protocol, with its
- many tunable parameters may be difficult to implement from the
- specification. The IESG will look for additional implementations
- before considering this protocol for Full Standard.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB recommending the
- elevation of the Network Time Protocol to Draft Standard status.
-
- o Telnet Environment Option
-
- The Telnet Working Group has submitted to the IESG a revised
- Environment option. This new version is intended to answer the
- objections raised by the IAB to the open-ended, Unix-centric nature
- of the previous submission. The IESG agreed that a last call was
- now appropriate.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call for the Telnet Environment
- Option.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note to the IAB pointing out the Telnet
- Environment Option Last Call and specifically requesting comments.
-
- o Telnet Authentication
-
- The Telnet Working Group submitted to the IESG several documents
- for authenticating Telnet connections. These include a base
- authentication document, and specific profiles for SPX and
- Kerberos. These documents are complete for their intended purpose
- but are likely to be extended to include encryption in the
- near future. The Working Group has asked for an Experimental
- Protocol designation in the absence of a more formal Prototype
- designation. The IESG agreed that after these documents are given
- a security review by Steve Crocker, they should be published as
- Experimental Protocols.
-
- ACTION: Crocker (In absentia): Review the Telnet authentication
- protocols.
-
- o Token Ring MIB
-
- Nothing to report.
-
- o Routing Information Protocol
-
- An external review was done by Noel Chiappa. The protocol fits
- within the currently defined routing architecture and support the
- subnet masks and AS number needed for CIDR deployment. A few
- documentation shortcoming were identified and one technical concern
- was raised, specifically the possibilities of routing loops or
- failure where RIPv2 and RIPv1 are running together where subnetting
- has been enabled. Text identifying this problem should be added.
-
- ACTION: Hinden -- Get a new copy of the RIP V2 protocol posted as an
- Internet Draft.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With Hinden, take Chiappa's review and write a
- recommendation to elevate the RIP V2 Protocol to Proposed Standard once
- the new Internet Draft is posted.
-
-
- Technical Management Issues
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- o Review of Expired-in-Grade Protocols
-
- Several protocols not previously on the IESG list of in-progress
- works were noted. The IESG briefly reviewed each one and determined
- tentative courses of actions.
-
- - Telnet Linemode Option
-
- The Telnet Linemode option is widely used but the document
- required clarifications in several points. It is not clear to what
- extent these clarifications reflect current practice and whether
- there is demonstrated incompatibilities.
-
- ACTION: Hobby -- Encourage the revision of the Telnet Linemode Option
- and begin research into the operational use of this protocol.
-
- - CMOT
-
- The CMOT protocol as defined in RFC 1189 "Common Management
- Information Services and Protocols for the Internet" has expired in
- grade. The IESG was not aware of any currently implementations of
- this protocol and agreed to issue a last call to move this protocol
- off the standards track to Historical.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call proposing to move CMOT to
- Historical Standard Status.
-
- - NFS/RPC
-
- The Sun NFS and RPC protocols have been on the expired list for
- some time. There have been several efforts both to gain change
- control to allow these protocols to continue in the standards track
- and efforts to update the documentation with little success. The
- IESG agreed to issue a Last Call to move these protocols off the
- standard track to Informational.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call proposing to move Sun NFS and RPC
- to Informational Status.
-
-
- o IP Version 7 Decision
-
- The IESG began discussing whether the a reasonable pruning of
- proposals can occur after the November IETF meeting. It is not
- likely that any particular proposal will be complete and
- implementation and transition information is anticipated to be
- sketchy. The IESG has firm plans to review the criteria and explore
- each proposal in terms of the criteria, however it is not clear that
- a pruning to a single proposal will be possible. The IESG plans to
- discuss the current plans in depth during the next teleconference.
-
- o Criteria from Partridge and Kastenholtz
-
- Additional IPv7 Evaluation criteria were suggested by Craig Partridge
- and Frank Kastenholtz beyond the criteria initially suggested by the
- IESG. The IESG discussed this effort and agreed that it was positive
- and that the work should be reviewed with the IESG proposal at a BOF
- during the Washington DC IETF meeting. Philip Almquist agreed to
- chair this meeting as the Internet AD.
-
- ACTION: Coya -- Find a time and schedule a session for the IP V7
- Criteria BOF.
-
- o Poised Working Group
-
- A strawman proposal was sent to the Poised mailing list and had a
- quenching effect. The reduced level of discussion indicates some
- degree of uncertainty. The proposal was neither blasted nor praised.
- Several interpretations were discussed, and the IESG members agreed
- to individually solicit comments and encourage further discussion.
-
-
- Appendix - Action Items
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the
- Internet Draft <draft-ietf-fddi-ipoverfddi-00.txt> as a full Standard.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB recommending the
- elevation of the Network Time Protocol to Draft Standard status.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call for the Telnet Environment
- Option.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note to the IAB pointing out the Telnet
- Environment Option Last Call and specifically requesting comments.
-
- ACTION: Crocker (In absentia): Review the Telnet authentication
- protocols.
-
- ACTION: Hinden -- Get a new copy of the RIP V2 protocol posted as an
- Internet Draft.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With Hinden, take Chiappa's review and write a
- recommendation to elevate the RIP V2 Protocol to Proposed Standard once
- the new Internet Draft is posted.
-
- ACTION: Hobby -- Encourage the revision of the Telnet Linemode Option
- and begin research into the operational use of this protocol.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call proposing to move CMOT to
- Historical Standard Status.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call proposing to move Sun NFS and RPC
- to Informational Status.
-
- ACTION: Coya -- Find a time and schedule a session for the IP V7
- Criteria BOF.
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